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Obviously we had further conversation on discord but thought best to put my opinion in here too since this is the main topic for this discussion. My opinion is it shouldn’t be changed as I like the self kill feature. however I see both sides and I think some people are forgetting that the aim is to find the happiest solution for everyone. As said by others I think the best course of action is award kill to person who last inflicted damage to the person who self kills. This way we can have the people who get frustrated by self kill get awarded and the people who use the self kill as a battle tactic to still be able to do this. As for the suicidal kamikaze self killer dilemma then surely self kill counts as a death? That way it decreases the likelihood someone will do this. But again if someone is doing this strategically they still can. this seems to be the fair and down the middle approach to me but feel free to disagree that’s why we have these discussions. Just remember bigger picture and not what you want. Much love my fellow Muppets 🖤

From my standpoint, infight self kill is really frustrating, especially when the guy who sk is a pure fragger. A delay could limit some behaviors such as people who trick jump into enemies group with nades or panza, and who selkill before being killed. To be very honest, I would disable also all the player weapons as soon as he has activated the sekfkill command. Some pple will consider that I'm a bit extremist, but I consider that systematic uses of selfkill is a plague for the fun so any solution to limit this practice would be good. 😁

Yeah. The last hit you received should get the kill I think. On match games it’s different but on an fun server that would be the honest thing to do I guess.

I understand that selfkill in battle can be frustrating, you don't get the reward (kill) for being the better shooter (or winner of given encounter, whatever) . But I am strongly against a time delay. Yes you can time it, but first you have to remember that there IS a delay, then apply that. That would lead to many missed respawns imo. As for the kill award, yeah, absolutely, award the kill to the last person to hit you before your selfkill (probably something like a second or two before).

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I can't agree here. Many players use selfkill in battle just to avoid death. I'd even say it's quiet often and pretty annoying. The simpliest solutions tend to be the best solutions - as it was mentioned above - the last player to hit a selfkiller gets a kill award and everyone should be satisfied.

No, you got stuck on your idea that selfkilling isnt right on our server and can't see that people actually use it for other purpose than to "frustrate" the enemy. ETLegacy is way more obj based than ETPub was, because of the SR system. Yes, that's right, people go for the obj to make their e-ego better. Like it or not. You don't see many big fraggers not helping their team like we used to see. And sorry to point it out but when teams go for the objective it makes them competitive, and competitive gameplays on ET require selfkilling.

If the inactivity timer was short, like 10 seconds for example, then it would impact people who chat. You stop to type and the timer starts. I sometimes get the automated warning because I've been typing too much and that's with it at 30 seconds or whatever.