Founders MrMuppet Posted March 13, 2017 Founders Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 From Trackbase regarding the next release from ET:Legacy. https://dev.etlegacy.com/projects/etlegacy/wiki/Bayesian_skill_rating No more XP save!Let's measure your skill instead Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory is a free and open source multiplayer first-person shooter set during World War II and heavily focused on teamwork. More than a decade after its release, after spending countless hours of escorting tanks and trucks, stealing gold and radar parts and transmitting confidential documents, there comes a project which aims to relaunch and dust off a game which consistently refused to go down. What are XP? Enemy Territory implements XPs, which measure player scores based on specific actions, such as kills, construction, or revive. They are also used to control the various skill levels, similarly to a RPG. While not part of the original game, the ability to accumulate XPs indefinitely, as known as "XP save", has been a popular addition in many mods. We all know it: players crave for their XPs. Players accumulate XPs like coins map after map, and they love exhibiting XPs on servers to show how hard and how long they worked to earn them.The downside of XP save However, XPs don't give any indication of the real global performance of a player. At best, they merely give a hint about the time the player has played on a specific server. Saving XPs also create some imbalance by enabling special abilities given by skill levels permanently, such as adrenaline for medics which directly leads to the infamous "Rambo medics" that everyone hates. This has never been accounted for in the original game balance, where XPs were reset at the end of matches or the end of campaigns.With Legacy mod aiming to stay close to the original game design, it makes sense to not encourage the use of XP Save as so many mods do. Starting from the next 2.76 release, only the XPs earned in the current map or campaign will be displayed.Instead of the total accumulated XPs, we're introducing a new metric, known as "Skill Rating". The Skill Rating has been gradually implemented in the past Legacy release, with the final version being currently tested on our official test server. Connect now to etlegacy.com to have a preview of the system! The idea is simple: Skill Rating is a new, proven metric that can be used to compare skill of players over time. As FPS require skills in multiple areas like reflex, planning, tactical analysis or teamwork, with the relative importance of these skills depending on the map, game mode, player roles or team compositions, a skill rating can be defined as a measure of "all parameters of a player that help his team to win" and calculated using a statistical approach. The idea of using statistics to estimate the skill of players isn't new. ETPub implements such a metric with its "Player Rating" that gives a normalized skill score. However, "Skill Rating" of Legacy mod is modeled after TrueSkill, a more modern algorithm that has been developed by MicroSoft for its XBox matching service. • It has many advantages over the ETPub's PR, and is very well documented. • It has been extended to take map bias into account. • Ranks will also be adjusted to reflect the rating of the player, instead of reflecting the skill levels and XPs.The better you perform the faster you'll rank up. However beware, several 'bad' matches and you might lose a rank again. And now fire up the game and /connect etlegacy.com to give the system a test-run on our official test server. Feel free to join our Discord voice chat for proper teamplay. Cheers FAQ What is Skill Rating? It is a value between 0 and 50 assigned to each player. It represents its ability to help his team to win the map. Rating will be updated after each map played at intermission. New players will have a rating of 0, and it will increase over time. The rating value determined by using the strength of the team, time played in each team and the map. The performance of disconnected players is taken into account.What do I need to do to have a good Skill Rating? Do whatever is necessary to win the map.What are the percentage numbers displayed on scoreboard (using double Tab)? The first value represent the real time estimate of each team winning the map, while the second is the map bias.The numbers show that the current game is unbalanced! The rating system takes balance into account when updating rating. It is thus "fair" to lose an unbalanced map. Winning a map against a much weaker team will not increase your rating much, but losing against a weaker team will make your rating drop sharply. Conversely, to increase your rating quickly, join the weaker team and win as an underdog!Where do I learn more about this Skill Rating system? For interested people that want additional details, see the related wiki document and implementation ticket. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemon Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Ah, thank you very much for posting it here. I was just about to do that. Couldn't do it earlier, because I assume that new profiles need to be authenticated? Anyway, now it is here Let us know what you think. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitmod Admin StaR Posted March 13, 2017 Nitmod Admin Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) Great, even bigger way to show how bad I am in this game Edited March 13, 2017 by StaR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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miraro3 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 14 hours ago, kemon said: Ah, thank you very much for posting it here. I was just about to do that. Couldn't do it earlier, because I assume that new profiles need to be authenticated? Anyway, now it is here Let us know what you think. Cheers Aaah here is the new face who showed up on chat last night Shame we didn't get to talk! This sounds like an interesting concept for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I wonder if I can still just Rambo Medic or if I'll actually have to start trying again to get a higher rating.. Either way might weed out the XP whoring a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraro3 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Minty said: I wonder if I can still just Rambo Medic or if I'll actually have to start trying again to get a higher rating.. Either way might weed out the XP whoring a little. Well first of this will be for server running on legacy, not our NoDownloads server Secondly, I believe that fragging like you're used to also helps the team to victory, so you should be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannibal Corpse Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 42 minutes ago, miraro3 said: Well first of this will be for server running on legacy, not our NoDownloads server Secondly, I believe that fragging like you're used to also helps the team to victory, so you should be fine Well first of this will be for server running on legacy, not our NoDownloads server Lets keep it that way too!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitmod Admin StaR Posted March 14, 2017 Nitmod Admin Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 hours ago, miraro3 said: Well first of this will be for server running on legacy, not our NoDownloads server Secondly, I believe that fragging like you're used to also helps the team to victory, so you should be fine Yes, please kill all of them so I can go and repair the tank without getting blown up by everyone. ;_; 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slarty Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Regardless of what, moar mines 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 8 hours ago, Minty said: I wonder if I can still just Rambo Medic or if I'll actually have to start trying again to get a higher rating.. Either way might weed out the XP whoring a little. Just stay spec whole night, and go on next day with levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCool Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 This seems interesting, considering my XP count is not as high as it once was back in my hay days lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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