is that not what winston did?? not sure what rambo say or do to make you 2 (mini & mr) have so much sympathy for him. he plays on the server with his girl pwning bots, when an other member joins the server rambo seems to be causing problems (if you find the time you should read the console logs, it will give you a clear view on the problem). we (the members) are allowed to use our admin 'powers' on people that are causing problems. do we have a rule that says 'if someone badmouths thou should mute him'? i don't think so. we all know that winston doesn't run away from a conversation/argument, can we blame him for it? it is how he is, who are we to tell that his reaction was wrong? he didn't murder the guy did he? revoking all his admin rights was (in my opinion) a wrong decision. you did not gave him the chance to 'deffend' himself to you.. we all want more regular players on our server, but do we want our server to be a place were people go to have arguments with each other or do we want it to be a place were we all can have fun after a long day of school/work? mrmuppet, you should not 'choose' a high admin above a regular(problem causing) guest. maybe 'choose' wasn't the correct word, but you did only look to what rambo said to defend himself instead of listening to both before 'punishing' winston for being who he is. i should not be the one telling you how to run a clan, but without the members there is no clan, don't forget that. the clan will still be running if we ban/kick rambo and his GF, but if we lose our members to small and easy to solve problems we won't survive for long.