Perhaps we need to make another group, trial members, give them access to the members only section but restrict some sections! The problem is with them having access to the main members only section, it is difficult to post about them without them seeing it but allowing other members to see it who are not level 2, admin etc The same is when I pm, as a group "members" they would have seen the pm if though the pm is about them, so I had to send the message to individual members instead. If you think the same have a play with a new group and set certain permissions that you think should be relevant to trial members, I am packing for my holiday tomorrow so I don't have the time now. Cheers.