This is not a matter of who is right or wrong but what is right or wrong! Spawn killing is the issue, if no one had been spawn killing then this would not have happend. Spawn killing is NOT allowed!!!!!!!!! TM members dont argue in main chat, they use the PM system. Thay do not tell other members the issues in main chat, they use the PM system. Base race is now removed and though I do like the map myself, it just gets full of rambo medics playing as individuals and not has a team. "so please convince winston to apologise" thats up to him if he beleives he was is the wrong, if he muted because of what I have said above then I would not expect him to. I am not taking sides and do not favor people, puppet found that out, I put my trust in people to do the "right" thing when needed and thats why more established members have higher levels.