Shuffle-vote during warmup

[Goga]

I see that, recently, shuffle-votes are denied when there's not much time left during the warmup and this makes a lot of sense. However, can we lower the threshold for this please? e.g. Even when 23-25 seconds are left (in a ~35 second warmup), shuffle votes are currently denied. Perhaps deny it only if the number of seconds is <15?

[Goga]

Looks like the shuffle is denied even when there are 28 seconds left (out of a 35 sec warmup). The only time it worked for me was when I started the vote as soon as the warmup began.

[Ctrz]

If you see teams beeing bad then just shuffle yourself and dont wait for the vote 🍻

[Goga]

True, I do do that. I'm wondering for cases when no TM member is around. As this (restriction) appears to be very recent, my suggestion is to change the threshold.

Edited Sunday at 06:16 AM by Goga

[Dragonkiss]

So the horrible bad pre-game shuffle vote by players is turned off? I might start playing again. 

[Flo]

Hello Goga, 

we didn’t do any modification on that point on server configuration.

However, I believe it is linked to the ETL version upgrade we did this week (we jumped from 2.82.1 to 2.83.2).

We can see in the changelogs here https://github.com/etlegacy/etlegacy/wiki/Changelog the following statement on the 2.83.0 version (see image attached).

 

Edited Sunday at 03:10 PM by Flo

[Goga]

Thanks Flo! It looks like there's a bug in that version in that case, coz it prevents the shuffle even when 28 out of 35 seconds are still left in the warmup.

[Flo]

15 hours ago, Goga said:

Thanks Flo! It looks like there's a bug in that version in that case, coz it prevents the shuffle even when 28 out of 35 seconds are still left in the warmup.

Yes indeed I could confirm the bug. It doesn't allow callvote when there are less than 30sec left.

I discussed with developers and this is not intended, and hard coded. So I can't do anything on that, there's no cvar or link with any other mechanism.

So until they fix this, you either have to shuffle with wolfadmin commands, or callvote before 30sec remaining (current warmup time is 40sec on server).

 

[Stumpel]

On 1/25/2025 at 6:05 PM, Ctrz said:

If you see teams beeing bad then just shuffle yourself and dont wait for the vote 🍻

But if there isnt any of our clan members online.. Then players cant just shuffle "yourself"

[Goga]

Thanks for following up on this, Flo. Shuffling is what I usually do in such a scenario, however there can be cases where no TM is around (as Stumpel is also pointing out). I guess the worst that'll happen is that people too will realize that they need to shuffle early on (in the first 10 sec) for the next game, and that should be ok.

Thanks again for confirming the issue and checking with the dev.