Yes, lets keep the no downloads server just has it is, it is popular at the moment and people are always coming back. A no download server should be just has ours is, no sound packs, no skins and no extra maps to download, a certain few other servers just have not grasped the "no downloads" meaning! Quite a few players comment they play there because it is just basic maps with nothing else to download. The jaymod server is getting a little more interest now it is popular maps, just looking at that now and there is three on, Savas has 39795xp! Arek has 48692xp! Etnam is just a modding server, this can be swapped to what ever people want. Perhaps we should not call it TeamMuppet recruiting server, the other etpub no download server that runs off of the dedi box is nearly has popular as ours, that is just called etpub xps nodownload and it attracts people, people are using that and coming to our main servers has advertised on there and the other dedi box servers because we are seeing those people playing on both of the severs. Beginners servers should be just that, for beginners and not filled with players who have played for many years and have huge amounts of xp on the servers, how can that be a server for beginners? (not having a dig at anyone's server). The dedi box servers are just test or advertising servers for our main ones, running sniper only, chaos mod, beginners xps and a no download jaymod (which does not get much interest either) these are not meant to be for teammuppet members and are not called that. (forgot about the etpro practice server but that is just has it says for us to practice on etpro where other players can join. The one point about only running one or two teammuppet servers is that, can we agree on what mods to run?