A few others to look out for; Heya, Well i you need more information or details on the shit shadow pulled....just ask, we can write an book about it... he is part of an very anoying group of gamers, who all somehow seem connected. few names: firebunny/kenny, force4ever , patty , samuta, smartpieps, s!lence , jonwolf ,thunder(1german,1 belgium) and more. If they see shadow playing on ur server it is only a matter of time and they will come also. this is a group who will start out playing nice , but when times come they will start discussions about everything you worked your ass of for. Even worse they will start to critisium ur server in public chat as they find stuff they dont like... atm they dont have the finacial resources to start own server , but as soon as they have it, they will leave ur server and leave you with dealing with members who follow them, becuz they are mastes in recruting on other comunties, they even will take email adresses from ur website to recruut. We ended up with 10 players who left us.... and 7 are now back with us as soon as they saw shadow couldnt make it happen. he had promised to all ten that they would get high admin lvls... well i dont have to tell u what a disturbtion i gives in a community when 10 players leave... same shit when they wanne comeback again.. btw !give command is in our server not availeble for admins, just to prefent the temptation. thx for ur reaction and keep ur eyes open, as they will make shit in future. cheers, BlueAngel