Heavy Weapon Restrictions

[ralvek]

Stumple what the fuck are you on about, mate? 

 

Your comments are doing exactly just that, but for some reason you can't comprehend that this is heavy weapons topic.  

Anyway this subject is in fact closed for the moment, the limitations are in effect and we see how that goes. I don't see any reason to allow further discussion about it, it'll only spiral out of control.

 

Stumple open a new post for medic discussions? not difficult. And  PM me if u would like to resolve some sort of issue you have / believe  I have with you. The public forum isn't the place. 

 

[Ctrz]

6 minutes ago, Kevlar said:

Stumple what the fuck are you on about, mate? 

 

Your comments are doing exactly just that, but for some reason you can't comprehend that this is heavy weapons topic.  

Anyway this subject is in fact closed for the moment, the limitations are in effect and we see how that goes. I don't see any reason to allow further discussion about it, it'll only spiral out of control.

 

Stumple open a new post for medic discussions? not difficult. And  PM me if u would like to resolve some sort of issue you have / believe  I have with you. The public forum isn't the place. 

 

There is a topic about medics open in forum and you have somewhat participated in it .. does he need to open another one?

[ralvek]

use that then 

[P3Swan]

I haven't seen any problems yeat. When server full it feels quite normal and not seen any increase on medics on the server.

Could maybe add 1 more fop to give ammo and so, as there is no way 3rd fop can use artys or supports when its already hard with 2 fops

[Stumpel]

16 hours ago, Kevlar said:

Stumple what the fuck are you on about, mate? 

 

Your comments are doing exactly just that, but for some reason you can't comprehend that this is heavy weapons topic.  

Anyway this subject is in fact closed for the moment, the limitations are in effect and we see how that goes. I don't see any reason to allow further discussion about it, it'll only spiral out of control.

 

Stumple open a new post for medic discussions? not difficult. And  PM me if u would like to resolve some sort of issue you have / believe  I have with you. The public forum isn't the place. 

 

Yes,there is another topic and my last comments are not askin any changes. When you look the vote options: it says if server has over 14 players then 4 soldiers and rifle without limit.BUT script which @Flo have added has limited it into 4.. 

 

If I want some changes it sounds llike this: want do changes then limit it 1 gun type per soldier butvif server has over 14 then 2mg's 1 per soldier other guns bur not mg or basic thompson/mp40 and 2 field ops on team.... and rifles like @Charlie wanted in 1st option..

 

 

And finally, please dont use other same clan  member discussion that f*ck word..

[Stumpel]

 

Its seems vote result has counted wrong becausec rifles are limited when 14 or more players server gaming.. The option number 3 wasnt most voted..

@Flo's Added script limits it to 4..

Players has voted most option 1, so script should be like that why how it says..

 

 

Option number 1 says this:

Edited August 18, 2024 by Stumpel

[Charlie]

I wanted to rush this poll out and get this subject sorted asap due to how long it had gone on for on discord without a solution. It was a misunderstanding on my part Stumpel, but if it's an issue overall we can put it to unlimited rifles again at > 14 players. That being said, while I haven't been on the server to see myself, the mood overall seems positive towards this change.

[Stumpel]

Yes, changes are welcome, but I dont see rifles so big problem what the others see.. All is about how good player is to use rifle thats all.. Even I dont do much tk and I use rifle most of time.. BUT the idea to limit in in some maps as @Flo said its crazy.. Because 2 guys vs 22 players team is too little amount.. I dont think that all goes under rifle if its unlimited.. People still choose mixed classes.. I think its just useless fear that players think that people takes rilfes and start rifle fight totally, I dont believe on it.. But it maybe prevents little that all goes to medic..

But if its limited and soldier class goes locked after 4 guys or even 1.. That 1 makes people going to medic.. I mean under 14 players game it usully might go 6 medics and 1 engi or 5 medics 1 engi and 1 soldier or all medics or 6 medics 1 covert or 5 medics 1 engi 1 covert or 5 medics 1 engi 1 field op.. those are most possible teams what it might look like..   Thats just thinkin how it might look like.. Just inform to @Kevlar   And I m not askin people any side or making any side if you saying that no-one is takin my side.. I m jus writing not making anykind of "sides"   And finally @Kevlar your great guy you dont have to think that I have something against you, no I dont have .. I think you good mate. Sorry if make you abused with my posts.. I m happy that @Charlie had time to look posts and answered this topic..

[ralvek]

No you don't make me abused with your posts mate  

 

All the numbers in the last post, was abuse tho xd 

 

I just like to call a duck a duck. So if it says heavies on the topic, it should be heavies in the subject. 

I think digressing is a highly inefficient way to get things done, that why I steered (And always will) the convo back to the topic. I like getting things done, while their still fresh and relevant. 

 

Charlie, yeah the response is generally positive with the exception of a few players

[c4ps]

On certain maps (ex. Bremen_truckmod) the limit in rnaders is still not enough, you can ask Flo & EBO. as allied you take the flag, and if you wanne go for side, holy shit nade spam en rnade spam to the max. 1 time i played it in the evening and the next day I woke up, still waiting till the nade storm was over

Edited August 21, 2024 by c4ps

[Stumpel]

And I wait when medic storm is over  

[P3Swan]

3 hours ago, Stumpel said:

And I wait when medic storm is over  

No worries, see you soon

[Stumpel]

After long while thought that better say about those options in start at the poll.. And about the final result.. 

 

Well there was options with higher player amount in-game..  @Charlies option suggestion.. 

Under 14 players - 1 Soldier and 2 rifles. 14 and higher players - 4 soldiers and no rifle limit

Under 14 = less than 14 in whole game (both teams included into this count) and players 14 and more means teams size are atleast 7 vs 8... And that option got the most biggest amount of votes 22, so total 22 votes. And did that thing happened what @Charlie wanted, no! No it didnt.

 

The point of this post goes to this: Vote option says in player limit 14 and over NO RIFLE LIMIT..

And whats the reality, its limited in every single map when teams are even 22 vs 22 its limited into 4..

And then both teams can have 1 guy with mg and 1 1 other with maybe mortar and 1 panzer and 1 flamer if people really want take em and if no they choose medic.. (Which has autoheal maybe powered up into maxand fastest that medics fight effectiviness is set absolutely the best, I have seen them HP level is set over 145..  Which is much higher than other classes can get.. and gives them better chances to win fights..).  Well thats what server killspree guys wants, but that is not that what was at vote options. And why's the Riflers limited all maps, that they cant stop the  medic killingspree guys get thei killstreaks..

 

Other votes are: Keep the server as it was a originally, (which means everything was limitless)   ---->>>>>  That option got 6 votes, 6 votes, which 3 more than the last one.. 

AND

And last option is: Other, comment below..

This vote got the most less votes only 3 votes!

 

And what actually happened it won the voted options.. Rifles are limited every single map that way which @Flo wanted, and his option got only 3 votes, 3 votes..

 

Thats the thing which maded me really to stop playing, I m not intrested to play even if the server settings doesnt change into that what people had voted.. 

 

Final note: So votes didnt mean anything, the thing what really meant something was: @Flo was the guy who set server settings, so he did them on his way. Thats all.. So that I wanted to say you, that it was the thing what happened.. So correct vote didnt win only @Flo's mind..

notice numer 2:

limited are Field OPs and soldiers and rifles and players dont want spent their time by picking up the covert op and fill maps with lovely smoke so they took medic ofcourse, nowadays I jump into that and start mess with smoke (sometimes many other has done that same too, and then map is full of lovely grey smoke..) if other classes  than medic and covert ops is locked..

 

Have looked it day to another month to another, then played sometimes, noticed that server starts look even more and more some random shooting range. Which says welcome test ramboing medic skills, we have som many medics that we let you ramboing.. Because from 40 players 30 medics cant be enough.. There still slots free to pick.. Only 100% is the limit.. All other classses please dont even think to try it.. Because you cant.. 

 

Many times wanted play, but always game said class is locked, so why to use time to sepd to look then fight of medics.. so I have then just left.. I have been thinkin that if I have to choose that option leave from server many times, then I might relook server list and take something else.. Why? Because the other groups and sites doesnt have on their maps that kind of limits.. 

 

Well now people think am I crazy or something no, I m not.. I m just bored to see it every day when join in.. Maybe I m too old to even watch it, so no suprise why so many guys has turned into ex-member or honourable admin and the owners havent played game in many years..  Maybe its better just let it be. That just came on my mind to tell..

 

P.S. will see what kind of faces and "haha" buttons and suprised faces I got into reactions.. Suprisingly waiting to see it.. 

 

 

 

Edited January 9 by Stumpel

[P3Swan]

On 1/9/2025 at 3:49 PM, Stumpel said:

P.S. will see what kind of faces and "haha" buttons and suprised faces I got into reactions.. Suprisingly waiting to see it.. 

I gave you Teammuppet coin, go get some beer from Teammuppet store and enjoy your night  

[Mani]

All these options and everything but none of these options are actually tackling the root cause of everyones complaints (from both sides)
ppl complaining about spam, because of how many nades, rifle, panzer, flamer, mortar everyone has

ppl complaining about choke points in maps

Ppl complaining that they cant play rifle and are stuck to a class they don't want to play if things get limited e.g everyone as medics or something.

Everything seems to boil down to the sheer number of players, everything else beyond that seems to be trying to solve a problem but not the actual problem :).

If the server number were reduced, you could have the same player base split across 2-3 servers,

the spam would be reduced,

the chokeholds on maps would be massively reduced.

If you dont have your class available there is another 2 servers that your class is likely to be available on, instead of 1 server everyone fighting for 1 panzer, or 4 rifles etc